Could you give us a brief overview of Mormonism?
I consider the faith of the LDS.people to be of very high demand activity.
Without pressure,constant exertion,and effort the potential outcome towards worthiness,and ultimately for a completed ,united family in celestial glory,there really is nothing to be compared with it,ie. on a second rate level.
Being lazy, inactive,a 'jack or jill" type member just really isn't honest to be what it was designed for ,in many people s thinking.
(However,if one has become a 'closet -type doubter',and yet have significant family ties on the inside,it becomes then acceptable, and common to remain inactive in that lesser category.)
When I visited the above convert Elaine described above,some years later, I asked her,"what was it really Elaine that made you join"?
I received a commonplace answer I'd heard likewise of others,"they made me feel important ,and gave me a job to do".
Further,by this point,she being then in her early 50s, had become the matriarch in her ward... yet still not fully temple -active married,as she never remarried after her divorce from her non -mormon husband.
On this matter,I also asked,"how will you then manage without a man (priesthood holder)to help you through to the other side?"She seemed still okay with that saying,"oh that will be taken care of".
So in my opinion, it appears reality and honestly to say that this religion is a sanctified type of 'rat race',put in casual jargon,that there follows an ever increasing effort on the part of all members from 17 year singles to becoming mission-minded ,temple-married,on into rearing as many children as able,that preexistent spirit -children be blessed, by being born into more suitable and worthy LDS. families ...so therefore by obvious conclusive statistics a great emotional stress is placed on all members,and particularily on women that increases with each child,and more if she has any outside work ,or Relief Society positions included in her schedule.
Doctrinally,the universe always was,as an eternal Councils of the Gods helped to reorganize cosmological matter totally, and bring about our planetary system,and parents in a garden ...where Adam our first parent,actually did not actually fall downwards,rather he had to disobey Eloihim s command to not eat of the tree of good and evil,so that he might have privileges to reproduce with 'joy' in relations ,to procreate suitable physical bodies ,for the potential ongoing probationary worthiness/exaltation cycle, towards glorification after death.
(However,nothing in Mormon doctrine speaks to laws of scientific entropy,or the universe actually 'winding down',as in the Penumbra effect where infinite regression is not essentially possible.)
Children are born free of a sin nature,or an hereditary depravity as protestants consider in the book of Genesis3 ,and Romans5 etc.until an age of accountability.
Personal sins ,plural, are to be noted,and guarded upon,with a limited forgiveness sought ,as per President Spencer W.Kimball ,and that inherent sinfulness is but a dysfunctional holdover from apostacized chrisendom,and unbiblical doctrines so declared after president Brigham Young.
In short,the struggle is great in what I personally term as a mission-impossible salvation.
Whereas,in biblical theistic christianity we see a finalized abolition of all the laws and ordinances against us,as in Paul s book of Colossians 2;14,and in Jesus final cry from His cross,in John19:30,"it is finished",supplemented by Peter and Paul in other correctly translated passages of IPeter2:24/Ephesians1:7.
Other Book of Mormon selections likewise reveal the finality of judgement following this life,leading to but two destinations.
Alma34:33 cp.with Hebrews9:27
Mosiah27:28 cp.with John 3:3.
No visible,heirarchical New Testament priesthood was present in a preapostacy first century,rather one that became one on an equal sexual footing in 1Peter2:9 etc,and with the Melchisedek priesthood reserved,without vacancy,untransferable (in the Greek New Testament) at Hebrews7:24.
The above comparisons,outline reflect the hard versus the much easier pathways of the two religions surveyed,which some as wasmormon people feel most relieved to be a part of and enjoy.
Matthew10:28/11:28-30
bobfMormonism, like many cults, is an incredibly toxic and controlled environment that preys on people's minds. Like citizens in North Korea, Mormons are restricted from accessing outside literature that may not be "faith promoting". This is just an abusive tactic the Church uses to control their deceptive narrative about the Church's history and who Joseph Smith really was. Essentially, Smith was a conman even before he founded the Church. He was known to dabble in gold-digging and folk magic. Then he lied about seeing a heavenly being and then beings in several convoluted stories about a supposed First Vision. Then he duped Martin Harris into paying for the publication of the Book of Mormon which Joseph claimed he received from gold plates that were given to him by an angel named Moroni. Just like in the South Park Episode about Mormons, Lucy Harris suspected Smith was full of it and hid 116 pages to test whether he could duplicate his translation of the Book of Lehi. He couldn't because he was making it all up.
Anyway, the entire religion is based on these gold plates that Smith claims he received. It tells of a Jewish family that left Jerusalem around 600 b.c. and travelled to the Americas even though there isn't a shred of DNA evidence that links Native Americans to Jewish ancestors. Mormons teach that just like in the middle east, God established prophets in the Americas that would testify of Christ. After Christ resurrected on the other side of the world, he came and visited the American Continent. Mormons believe that because they believe in both scriptures from both sides of the world that their concept of Christianity is pure and complete. They believe that God provided the Book of Mormon to reestablish Christ's one true church, the same one that was destroyed after all of the apostles had been martyred.
Mormonism became popular because Smith understood what was popular at the time i.e. folk magic, local fascination with Native American artifacts, the true origin of Native Americans, the Second Awakening or religious interest that had been sweeping across the Northeast, and he smashed all of these elements together with some cherry-picked Protestant teachings creating a weird, occult-like Christian hybrid religion that appealed to the masses. He was a marketing genius and capitalized on that.
Mormons believe that we can know if something is true if we feel the Holy Spirit. Problem is the way they identify feelings of the Spirit is inconsistent and not verifiably true. Missionaries are taught to relate Smith's First Vision in a really overly sentimental way so they can evoke emotions from investigators. When investigators feel something, really because of the missionary's performance, they trick people into thinking that what they felt was the Holy Spirit and therefore what the missionaries were saying must be true. This is the hook and that is how they get their mark.
Really this type of emotional manipulation sets the standard within the Church. Leaders will continually lie and manipulate members into believing the Church is true. They gaslight and create a bubble that does not allow members to actually know the truth about their own religion or its history.
truthfinder23Mormonism is a cult that sucks as much time, money, attention, and identity out of it's members as possible. They try to present this squeaky clean image to the public, while doing their best to sabotage any cultural connections the members might be able to form with non-members. From the smallest things in life like what beverages one chooses to imbibe, to defining what clothing members wear, what words they say, and what thoughts they think, the cult maintains strict control over nearly every aspect of member's lives, making it difficult for many members to ever be comfortable maintaining relationships with non-members. The church fosters an "us vs them" attitude between members and non-members.
Nominally the church worships Jesus, but instead hordes resources and reigns over Utah like it's their own little kingdom. As much as the federal government will stay out of their business, the church shapes Utah culture and politics to their liking.
The church continually focuses it's members to devoted study of their own modified stories of church history. Members learn of important stories in the church's past, but with important details and events left out that give the church a favorable or sympathetic view, effectively inoculating members against the truth because they've already heard those stories from their trusted sources (a classic pattern being that people were angry at Joseph, and always excluding or changing the WHY people were mad at him).
For the entirety of the church's existence, it has been a grift that enables church leadership to funnel funds into their own pockets and live happy, comfortable lives, on the labors of the members. The temple industry is largely a mechanism to project strength, manipulate real estate markets, and hire companies owned by church leadership to build expensive structures to boost property prices that have been bought up by church leadership prior.
The apostles of the church have been grifting members from the beginning, just like Joseph.
Mostly good people trying to hear the voice of the Lord and live good lives. Man-made, God-inspired...just like all of the other religions.
Brandon ShumwayThe basics of the church's doctrine claims that a boy named Joseph Smith was seeking Christ's church, and during his quest he prayed. God chose him as a prophet to restore and re-establish the church as it had been in Christ's time. Since then, God has given mankind the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, and The Pearl of Great Price as divine books of truth. After JS, other prophets have followed, and there's one today. The church claims to be Christian and that at the center of all they do is Christ and the family. The doctrine of eternal families and becoming like God/Christ is most people's motivation for joining/staying in the church.
BWAnonymousAt its best: a very tight-knit community that provides a rigid structure for someone's life that can bring them hope and a little happiness. For the right kind of people, mormonism can be a great experience. At its worst: a man-made cult designed to feed off of the hope and money of believers.