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I was raised Mormon and that’s all I’ve ever known until my shelf broke over two years ago. I enjoy the new life of exploration and enjoyment that I’ve found in post Mormonism. I still struggle as we all do but communities such as this do help!
I was raised Mormon and that’s all I’ve ever known until my shelf broke over two years ago. I enjoy the new life of exploration and enjoyment that I’ve found in post Mormonism. I still struggle as we all do but communities such as this do help!
Doctrines of Salvation by Joseph Fielding Smith: "SEER STONE NOT USED IN BOOK OF MORMON TRANSLATION. We have been taught since the days of the Prophet that the Urim and Thummim were returned with the plates to the angel. We have no record of the Prophet having the Urim and Thummim after the organization of the Church. Statements of translations by the Urim and Thummim after that date are evidently errors. The statement has been made that the Urim and Thummim was on the altar in the Manti Temple when that building was dedicated. The Urim and Thummim so spoken of, however, was the seer stone which was in the possession of the Prophet Joseph Smith in early days. This seer stone is now in the possession of the Church.225. 47 While the statement has been made by some writers that the Prophet Joseph Smith used a seer stone part of the time in his translating of the record, and information points to the fact that he did have in his possession such a stone, yet there is no authentic statement in the history of the Church which states that the use of such a stone was made in that translation. The information is all hearsay, and personally, I do not believe that this stone was used for this purpose. The reason I give for this conclusion is found in the statement of the Lord to the Brother of Jared as recorded in Ether 3:22-24. These stones, the Urim and Thummim which were given to the Brother of Jared, were preserved for this very purpose of translating the record, both of the Jaredites and the Nephites. Then again the Prophet was impressed by Moroni with the fact that these stones were given for that very purpose.226. 48 It hardly seems reasonable to suppose that the Prophet would substitute something evidently inferior under these circumstances. It may have been so, but it is so easy for a story of this kind to be circulated due to the fact that the Prophet did possess a seer stone, which he may have used for some other purposes. 226. 49"
Doctrines of Salvation by Joseph Fielding Smith: "SEER STONE NOT USED IN BOOK OF MORMON TRANSLATION. We have been taught since the days of the Prophet that the Urim and Thummim were returned with the plates to the angel. We have no record of the Prophet having the Urim and Thummim after the organization of the Church. Statements of translations by the Urim and Thummim after that date are evidently errors. The statement has been made that the Urim and Thummim was on the altar in the Manti Temple when that building was dedicated. The Urim and Thummim so spoken of, however, was the seer stone which was in the possession of the Prophet Joseph Smith in early days. This seer stone is now in the possession of the Church.225. 47 While the statement has been made by some writers that the Prophet Joseph Smith used a seer stone part of the time in his translating of the record, and information points to the fact that he did have in his possession such a stone, yet there is no authentic statement in the history of the Church which states that the use of such a stone was made in that translation. The information is all hearsay, and personally, I do not believe that this stone was used for this purpose. The reason I give for this conclusion is found in the statement of the Lord to the Brother of Jared as recorded in Ether 3:22-24. These stones, the Urim and Thummim which were given to the Brother of Jared, were preserved for this very purpose of translating the record, both of the Jaredites and the Nephites. Then again the Prophet was impressed by Moroni with the fact that these stones were given for that very purpose.226. 48 It hardly seems reasonable to suppose that the Prophet would substitute something evidently inferior under these circumstances. It may have been so, but it is so easy for a story of this kind to be circulated due to the fact that the Prophet did possess a seer stone, which he may have used for some other purposes. 226. 49"
My mom's patriarchal blessing said she would live to see her children grow to adulthood if she was faithful. She was very faithful and she died from cancer when I was 17 and my sisters were 14, 12 and 10. I was told God needed her but so did we. My heart was broken and could only be kept together if I could be with her again so I remained faithful.
My mom's patriarchal blessing said she would live to see her children grow to adulthood if she was faithful. She was very faithful and she died from cancer when I was 17 and my sisters were 14, 12 and 10. I was told God needed her but so did we. My heart was broken and could only be kept together if I could be with her again so I remained faithful.
In desperation, I attended a woman's retreat in Wyoming. I went alone and didn't know anyone. One night, a woman was talking and she said the words that would change my life. "If you are carrying something and it's hurting you, you can let it go. I am giving you permission to let it go." Let it go? I could do that?
In desperation, I attended a woman's retreat in Wyoming. I went alone and didn't know anyone. One night, a woman was talking and she said the words that would change my life. "If you are carrying something and it's hurting you, you can let it go. I am giving you permission to let it go." Let it go? I could do that?
My daughter was the first person in our families to ever serve a mission. She'd chosen to serve a mission so she could teach people that they were loved by god and to serve people. She was quickly learning in the MTC that the mission was much more about rules and obedience and judgement and numbers. She was sure that once she got out into the mission field that everything would be different but it wasn't.
My daughter was the first person in our families to ever serve a mission. She'd chosen to serve a mission so she could teach people that they were loved by god and to serve people. She was quickly learning in the MTC that the mission was much more about rules and obedience and judgement and numbers. She was sure that once she got out into the mission field that everything would be different but it wasn't.
"As someone who was raised in the church since birth in 1955, the first time I ever heard about that damn rock in the hat was when I read it in the gospel topic essays in May of 2021. Yes, I was 66 years old. I had taught every lesson in every auxiliary, been president of primary (twice), YW (twice), relief society, taught seminary and had NEVER heard of it. Never! It was a huge crack in my heavy shelf. I absolutely hated the explanation given by RMN in the video for primary children saying the rock was like a cell phone - words would appear on it. It made me so angry!" A member experiences feelings of anger when the church continues to gaslight about peep stones.
"As someone who was raised in the church since birth in 1955, the first time I ever heard about that damn rock in the hat was when I read it in the gospel topic essays in May of 2021. Yes, I was 66 years old. I had taught every lesson in every auxiliary, been president of primary (twice), YW (twice), relief society, taught seminary and had NEVER heard of it. Never! It was a huge crack in my heavy shelf. I absolutely hated the explanation given by RMN in the video for primary children saying the rock was like a cell phone - words would appear on it. It made me so angry!" A member experiences feelings of anger when the church continues to gaslight about peep stones.